Twenty years of friendship spill out in this conversation as Nelle Tamar-Manuel sits down with one of her oldest and dearest friends, Sarah Cakaric. Together they explore the power of shadow work, why softening yourself is the true source of feminine strength, and how dance, breath, and mirror-gazing have shaped their paths back to themselves after years of self-abandonment.
The conversation moves through the tender terrain of mothering through perimenopause, raising emotionally intelligent children, and the quiet grief of watching a “second puberty” rewire your brain, body, and identity all at once. Threaded throughout is a powerful reframe of aging as women, not a drying up, but an invitation to rediscover play, creativity, and the parts of ourselves we set aside to nurture everyone else.
Equal parts spiritual deep-dive and cackling girl-talk, this episode is a permission slip to rediscover who you were before you became “just” a mother, partner or caretaker. Expect candid takes on sex, dance, hormones, and the beautiful, chaotic work of growing into your second puberty.
You can find Sarah at www.instagram.com/templeofthepriestess
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